Limits on MB guns in Big Gun
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06 Dec 2011 11:58 PM  

Greetings!

I’ve been interested in this hobby for a while but haven’t had the opportunity to participate. Probably won’t be able to for sadly another year or so due to work and family issues but I have a general question that’s more of curiosity. This is geared more towards WWCC but any other from other formats please feel free to jump in: Is there any limit on how many main battery guns? I’ve read through a couple rule sets including WWCC but couldn’t find anything but I could have sworn I read on the yahoo forums that a ship like the Montana class were limited in how many guns she should carry (if allowed at all). If so I would assume that this applies to other 12-gun ships such as the South Dakota class BB-49 et al. Thanks for any info!
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07 Dec 2011 08:44 AM  

Typically there are no limitations on armament in 1:144 Big Gun, other than it has to be 3" or higher. WWCC was the sole exception for a while, but rescinded it recently. The Big Gun saying typically goes: if it is over 3" and you are skilled/crazy enough to arm it, go right ahead! The corollary is don't be surprised if stuff breaks more often due to added complexities. Most folks just arm the primary battery and leave the secondary and tertiary batteries alone.

 

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07 Dec 2011 10:16 AM  

The other problem is that the secondaries dramatically increase the point value of your ship without really increasing its offensive capability. So you are actually creating a competitive disadvantage by adding them.

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07 Dec 2011 11:18 AM  
Not limitations on the main battery... other then what you can stuff into a given ship. Anythig over 3".

What do you mean you increase the point value?
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07 Dec 2011 12:14 PM  
Ships are assigned point value based on a list of criteria. See the following link to the NTXBG technical appendix.

https://ntxbg.org/documents/NTXBG_Technical_Appendix.pdf

Generally it is only advisable to arm what is your most effective weapon (i.e. main battery on a battleship or the torpedoe tubes on a destroyer)
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07 Dec 2011 11:41 PM  

Thanks guys. Maybe one day I can build one but definitely not for a first model!

 

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08 Dec 2011 11:46 PM  
As a WWCC member, I can say that we used to have a limit on main battery guns, but it was removed several years ago. Unfortunately, the history of the club is shrouded in mystery and legend, so I can't be too sure how the limit was established. Apparently, it was to limit the damage that models were taking. I always thought it was odd, since the guns were so unreliable at the time.
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09 Dec 2011 09:23 PM  

Back when I first joined about 1997 or so, the reason seemed to be to give people a reason to build smaller ships instead of just massive battleships with tons of guns.  To ballance things out a little more.  Under the limits most heavy cruiser were still able to be fully armed.  I think that way too you didn't end up with everyone building whateve ship had the most speed and the most guns (Iowa) and got more varied ships.. since they were ALL limited to 6 main guns. 

I like that the limits are gone, however I do notice a lot less varried battleships and hardly any cruisers left other then torpedo cruiser... so it does seem like it worked for that reasoning.  Still, I think it it's better to have all the guns armed.  I feel it makes the big battleships a lot scarier of a thing to attack then they used to be.  The thought of 8 guns on the Frenchies and 9 on the Rodney all pointing at my little destroyers makes me think twice about attacking battleships...

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