JustinScott Founder
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 | | 07 Mar 2009 03:45 PM |
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JustinScott Founder
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 | | 07 Mar 2009 03:57 PM |
| It is approximately 200feet long by 20-30 feet wide.
It is far enough away from anyone's house or any road, lost shells will not do any damage.
It has a nice parking lot, and car access right up to the pond.
It is drained and cleaned every winter, so it contains neither fish nor rusty metal.
It is 10 minutes from a major highway, and 10 minutes from my house.
------Issues------
It is privately owned, by a farmer. So we have to get permission. However, my friend knows this farmer..
The farmer might or might not put chemicals into it, as it is used to water his crops.
And/or he might coat the bottom with clay... (unlikely, as it seemed like a dirt bottom to me)
------ Trade offs -------
It is drained right now, but at full capacity it could be as much as 6' deep.
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JustinScott Founder
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 | | 07 Mar 2009 04:00 PM |
| I've never fought on a 6' deep pond. It means we have to actually swim to get our boats. | | Cheers,
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Greg McFadden
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 | | 07 Mar 2009 07:09 PM |
| I've never fought where it was that shallow when time comes to retrieve ships! I just hope the water is safe to swim/wade in... some of those ponds can be a bit high on the nasty farm runoff scale  | | | |
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Gascan Veteran
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 | | 07 Mar 2009 09:12 PM |
| Six feet deep? Swimming to recover sunken ships? Ha, that's nothin'. My pond is eight feet deep, and I have to dodge icebergs while swimming upstream both ways. And that's not even mentioning the flora and fauna I have to deal with. I'd swear some of the pond weeds are descended from Audrey 2, then there are the amphibious lizards. You got it easy, only six feet deep... *mutter*mutter*mutter* | | | |
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Darren Scott Veteran
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 | | 07 Mar 2009 10:11 PM |
| Six feet deep? That's the shallow water under the dock, near the shore for us. the water gets deeper the further away from the dock you get, up to 15' deep, way out in the middle. Most of our ships carry at least 25' of line. The guys in the Mudgee Pond Pirates run in a dam that's almost 35' deep at one end.....Six feet....pffft! | | | Still a proud member of the AUSBG! | |
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JustinScott Founder
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 | | 07 Mar 2009 11:45 PM |
| 35' would suck if your float didn't deploy.
Kat says my 6' is off, she thought it looked like it could be 10' fully filled.
Personally, 6' or 30' makes little difference as it's still over your head; which means row boat. Although I'd do it (probably while complaining); you can't expect a good turn out of new skippers to go swimming after their boat every battle.
So, if we use this pond.... where are we going to get a rowboat?
Also, just for note.... its a man made, flat bottom pond. There is no 'wading'; it just drops off. | | Cheers,
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Iceman
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 | | 08 Mar 2009 05:05 AM |
| The sad reality is that a pond to be good for battling must have some depth to it. Mine is shallow and mucky and is a constant challenge to keep clear for the summer. A deeper pond does have drawbacks but it teaches all that battle it to have good working floats (or a certified diver) and that makes you a better battler wherever you are. Yes it's easier to just wade out there and pick up your boat but that severly limits the amount of ponds you battle on. 6 foot is not really that bad (or 10feet) When you get to the 15 and 20 feet, that's when I get really nervous although some battle that every day. For them it's no big deal and the water is always clear. | | Rob A.
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djranier
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 | | 08 Mar 2009 07:19 AM |
| We have gators in our pond that follow the boats and us around, but what you have to watch out for are the Water Moccasin's, a real nasty snake. Then of course the walking catfish, they are bad too. | | | Its better to give than to receive.
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Nick Veteran
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 | | 08 Mar 2009 09:37 AM |
| Posted By JustinScott on 07 Mar 2009 11:45 PM
Personally, 6' or 30' makes little difference as it's still over your head; which means row boat. Although I'd do it (probably while complaining); you can't expect a good turn out of new skippers to go swimming after their boat every battle.
I'm an atrocious swimmer and hate water deeper than my shoulders, so you can bet I won't be inclined to go swimming. I have no objection to pulling on an oar or two though if the need arises. | | Running: SMS Derfflinger,
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JustinScott Founder
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 | | 08 Mar 2009 11:49 AM |
| gators? I would have looked for another pond!
I don't mind a rowboat, infact... battling with a rowboat actually sounds better than getting wet to me. The problem is the logistics. I don't own a rowboat, I don't think Greg does.. do you? Even if we buy one, we still have to store it and transport it to the pond.
I would have to store it in my garage, which Kat wouldn't like, and I do have a truck... but I am going to trade in my truck @ the end of the year for a AWD car. Well, maybe I just take things one @ a time. If we get a boat small enough to fit in my truck, or one with a trailer, then we'd be OK for this year. Next year will take care of itself.
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JustinScott Founder
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 | | 08 Mar 2009 11:50 AM |
| What do you say Greg? Shall I approach this farmer & see if he'd be willing to let us battle? | | Cheers,
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djranier
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 | | 08 Mar 2009 02:43 PM |
| Were in Florida, all ponds have a good possibility of having Gators in them, hell allot of peoples pools have gators too. They have to call and have them removed. | | | Its better to give than to receive.
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JustinScott Founder
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 | | 08 Mar 2009 02:46 PM |
| Woah. Can't you just put up a fence?
*Hunny, call da xtermnater 'gan cuz we got 'nuther gator in the pool.* | | Cheers,
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 | | 08 Mar 2009 06:39 PM |
| I've worked at the YMCA as a lifeguard for two years, so recently I've been borrowing a lifeguard rescue tube on battle days so I have something to take out with me when I swim for sunken ships. You can get one for the club for around $35-40 from The Lifeguard Store. I think a boat is too much hassle when its quicker for a decent swimmer like me to swim for it. Of course, if you are a poor swimmer or are not comfortable, it's probably best not to. | | | |
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JustinScott Founder
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 | | 08 Mar 2009 07:08 PM |
| Can you give me a link? | | Cheers,
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Greg McFadden
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 | | 08 Mar 2009 08:40 PM |
| ask away! what is the worst that can happen  | | | |
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 | | 08 Mar 2009 08:44 PM |
| https://secure.thelifeguardstore.com/productcart/pc/viewCategories.asp?idCategory=133
A rescue tube is a soft,flexible, buoyant foam tube with a strap to go around your shoulder. It's kinda like a pool noodle, but more buoyant, more flexible, softer, and has a useful strap. When swimming or diving you can let the tube trail behind you, then pull on the strap to retrieve the tube when you need it. Once I pick a boat up off the bottom, I often lie with the tube across my chest, hold the boat in front of me, and kick back to shore (fins help this last part). We haven't had any battleships sink far out in deep water (they always make it closer to shore, about 3-6' deep) since I've started bringing the rescue tube, so I don't know how it will take that weight, but its a real lifesaver when swimming for the transports and cruisers that sank too quickly to come closer to home. Rescue tubes #100 and #112 look sufficent to me. | | | |
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JustinScott Founder
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 | | 09 Mar 2009 01:51 AM |
| Posted By Greg McFadden on 08 Mar 2009 08:40 PM
ask away! what is the worst that can happen  My wasted time if we decide not to use it. | | Cheers,
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Darren Scott Veteran
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 | | 09 Mar 2009 07:56 AM |
| The Canberra boys had a collapsible boat that folded down flat when not in use....failing that, a two-man inflatable dinghy is (just) sufficient to do the job.
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