WCC Fleet Status?
Last Post 21 May 2010 12:38 AM by Hovey Moore. 96 Replies.
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17 May 2010 06:17 AM
Nice looking oiler.
It is nice to see more convoy ships out there.
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17 May 2010 12:01 PM
Thanks. We're making an effort to try to build up some convoy ship games, partially because we don't have enough reliable ships on the water usually to generate sinks from gunfire and partially as a way to mix things up a little.
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18 May 2010 11:23 AM
Given the high state of readiness displayed by our fleet this weekend, I was wondering if there was interest in a prebattle get together on June 4th so we can do sea trials, test guns and maybe do some gunnery drills.
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18 May 2010 11:38 AM
Might be a good plan. some of our captains could probably use some time on a maneuvering course as well.
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18 May 2010 11:49 AM
Yeah, we all could be better helmsmen. But the only way to get better is time on the water. I know my ship didn't perform nearly as well as I wanted it too and I know there are several other ships that could use some tweaking/testing. My hope is that by testing before the battle, that we will have less down time at the battle.
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18 May 2010 07:57 PM
That sounds like a good plan.
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18 May 2010 08:17 PM
Bis has 7 units now
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18 May 2010 09:52 PM
Great, maybe you could send me one or two of those working units?
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20 May 2010 11:48 AM
Glad you were able to fit that in, should allow you to dish a bit more. You're set up with dual sterns now?

I've noticed it seems like you're blowing a lot of co2 lines, especially near the end of the day, did you get a bad batch of hose or are you having problems with liquid co2 in the lines?
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20 May 2010 01:20 PM
I'm glad you got your new guns working. It is going to be hard to attack you with guns going every which way.

The 1/4" OD line we use isn't actually rated for 150psi its designed service pressure is only 105psi if I remember correctly. It wont rupture but it tends to slip off of the hose barbs. The only thing I have found that works well is to use clamps on all of the larger fittings.



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20 May 2010 01:32 PM
it depends on the stuff you get. if you get one manufacturer, it is only rated to 105, if you get another, it is rated higher (I don't remember how much). ask the airtonics folks (the clippard distributor) about non-clippard hose that has a higher pressure rating
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20 May 2010 01:47 PM

The clippard stuff is rated for working at 105, the Airtronics tubing (Freelin-Wade) is rated 135/145 (working pressure) @ 75F (1/8th & 1/4 OD respectively) if you picked up the IJ-013 and IJ-025 types.

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20 May 2010 01:55 PM

Polyurethane tubing comes in 1/4" OD x 1/8" ID and is rated at 150psi? All that I have found is rated somewhere between 105 and 120 psi @ 75º F. 

EDIT: I have some of the Freelin Wade tubing and am very scepticale of their pressure claims. 

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20 May 2010 02:08 PM
mcmaster has some rated greater than 200psi
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20 May 2010 09:18 PM
Oh you mean like item number 5648K743? Hmm, I think maybe I need to get my eyes checked. When I last looked at McMaster-Carr I read that as ester based not ether based. Makes a big difference as to whether its worth using on boats. I do notice that with a durometer of 95A it is harder than most of the polyurethanes hoses out there should be much better for push connect fittings.
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20 May 2010 10:08 PM
that part number is an Ether-Based Polyurethane
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21 May 2010 12:38 AM

Yeah, polyurethane hose is normally manufactured using either an ester alcohol or an ether alcohol. Ester based breaks down in the presence of water but is cheaper to produce. Ether based doesn't break down in the presence of water and so is much better suited to our needs.

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