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 | | 19 Dec 2010 09:15 AM | | And, how! This is shamelessly cut-and-pasted from Commander Salamander's blog. When you next take your tiny armored cruiser (or destroyer!) into harm's way against some of the leviathans deployed by our friends, remember that even tin cans accrue honor, when driven with honor! http://cdrsalamander.blogspot.com/2...ay_17.html ...the Glowworm sighted a destroyer who when challenged, identified itself as Swedish. It was in fact the German von Röder class destroyer, Bernd Von Arnim, which very quickly opened fire, to which Glowworm responded. Unfortunately another German destroyer, the Paul Jakobi soon appeared. However, the Von Arnim was packed with invasion troops and soon both it and the Paul Jakobi turned and fled into a rainsquall. Lt Cdr Roope gave chase despite guessing that they were trying lead him onto their main force, in an attempt to discover their whereabouts and inform the Admiralty. Hiding in the showers, eh? Well, good Skipper, you head in as well - not to let Jerry get away from a proper battle. Then... As the Glowworm emerged from the squall she came face-to-face with 14,000 ton the German Heavy Cruiser, Admiral Von Hipper armed with eight 8 inch and twelve 4 inch guns. The Glowworm laid smoke and conducted torpedo attacks from the cover of the smoke screen but failed to hit the Hipper. Glowworm had sustained substantial damage by this time and Lt Cdr Roope gave the order 'Stand by to ram'. The Hipper, realizing what was happening tried to turn and ram the Glowworm but was too slow. The Glowworm tore into the starboard side of the Hipper amidships and tore 100 feet of armour plating away, damaged her starboard torpedo tubes and punctured two fresh water tanks. After ramming the Hipper, Glowworm drew clear, but received another close range salvo from the Hipper to which the single gun, commanded by Petty Officer Walter Scott responded. Glowworm by this time had sustained massive damaged and started to sink and Lt Cdr Roope gave the order to abandon ship. He went down to open the sea cocks himself and the ship started to sink, forcing men into the freezing water or onto her bow. In the very Navy way the Germans fought at sea in WWII, The Captain of the Hipper, Helmuth Heye, gallantly stayed for over an hour picking up survivors. He positioned Hipper so that the tidal currents would carry the survivors too them. All the personnel on deck helped with hauling survivors aboard but many were too exhausted to make the final effort of climbing up the ropes and ladders and slipped away, including Lt Cdr Roope who helped many of his men to get life jackets on and to get to ladders. Out of a crew of 149, only 31 survived, the only officer being Lt Robert Ramsey. The prisoners were treated well by the Germans who congratulated them on a good fight, and Captain Heye told the men that their Captain was a brave man. From Tug: Manliness in the extreme on both sides of that battle. I love it! | | | Battling: SMS Scharnhorst, SMS Baden
Building: HMS KGV (Drives, pumps water, guns are in but not plumbed)
MN Edgar Quinet (Hull done)
Drydock/Mothballed: Rus Evstafi, DKM Lutzow, HMS Invincible
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 | | 19 Dec 2010 01:06 PM | | I love this kind of story. The commander and crew of the Glowworm obviously needed huge pants just to cover their giant solid brass testicles. It is also cool in the fact that it shows that the German captain and crew were human beings afterall, not just blood-thirsty Nazis. The fact that they stayed in the area so long also shows that they had significant testicular fortitude as well. Great story. | | | HMS New Zealand - Under Construction
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Will Veteran
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 | | 25 Dec 2010 08:08 AM | | ...The DD and DEs of the Battle off Samar... | | | USS Pennsylvania | |
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 | | 25 Dec 2010 08:52 PM | | I covered that one in an earlier post  This being Christmas night, though... Godspeed, Captains Roope and Heye, and their men lost that night, wherever you are... | | | Battling: SMS Scharnhorst, SMS Baden
Building: HMS KGV (Drives, pumps water, guns are in but not plumbed)
MN Edgar Quinet (Hull done)
Drydock/Mothballed: Rus Evstafi, DKM Lutzow, HMS Invincible
Plus 20-odd other projects, according to my Boy Scouts who thoughtfully counted them for me. | |
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Zeke
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 | | 26 Jan 2011 06:31 AM | | thanks for the great story | | | |
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 | | 02 Feb 2011 05:17 PM | | It looks like the bottom of the story got cut off, wish I'd noticed it before... After the battle, the captain of the Hipper sent a message via the International Red Cross to the Admiralty in England! He detailed the entire engagement, and furthermore in light of the incredible bravery on the part of Glowworm's captain, put in HIS recommendation (as senior naval officer present at the battle) nominating Captain Roope for the Victoria Cross!
After the war, with corroboration from Lt. Ramsey (only surviving RN officer), the Royal Navy awarded Cdr Roope the Victoria Cross, the only time in British history that it has been awarded on the recommendation of a foreign officer. | | | Battling: SMS Scharnhorst, SMS Baden
Building: HMS KGV (Drives, pumps water, guns are in but not plumbed)
MN Edgar Quinet (Hull done)
Drydock/Mothballed: Rus Evstafi, DKM Lutzow, HMS Invincible
Plus 20-odd other projects, according to my Boy Scouts who thoughtfully counted them for me. | |
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Zeke
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 | | 02 Feb 2011 05:44 PM | | wow some Nazis aren't killers just good ol military men. | | | |
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 | | 02 Feb 2011 07:25 PM | | A lot of the Kriegsmarine wasn't Nazi, either not at all, or only because they had to be to keep their jobs. Hitler hated boats because he got seasick in the bathtub  | | | Battling: SMS Scharnhorst, SMS Baden
Building: HMS KGV (Drives, pumps water, guns are in but not plumbed)
MN Edgar Quinet (Hull done)
Drydock/Mothballed: Rus Evstafi, DKM Lutzow, HMS Invincible
Plus 20-odd other projects, according to my Boy Scouts who thoughtfully counted them for me. | |
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Anachronus
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 | | 02 Feb 2011 07:29 PM | | Indeed, didn't they even allow Jewish officers to retain their commissions much longer than the other services? | | | Vive la France! | |
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 | | 04 Feb 2011 01:12 PM | | Yeah, the 'Sink the Bismarck' movie really did an injustice to the Kriegsmarine officer corps. If I could pick one movie to be given control of for a redo, that movie would be it. Valor on both sides accurately represented, the tension in Britain as they frantically search for the Bis, the tragedy of the Hood, awesome CG FX, and get someone good to write a strong musical score. | | | Battling: SMS Scharnhorst, SMS Baden
Building: HMS KGV (Drives, pumps water, guns are in but not plumbed)
MN Edgar Quinet (Hull done)
Drydock/Mothballed: Rus Evstafi, DKM Lutzow, HMS Invincible
Plus 20-odd other projects, according to my Boy Scouts who thoughtfully counted them for me. | |
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 | | 12 Jun 2011 11:31 AM | | You want to know manliness? The newer DD, USS Laffey, sustained 6 kamakazis and 4 bomb hits, and you want to know what? She still fired with only one gun working. She was so determined that her gunners put a clean hole down the middle of a Val. The captain said "I will not abandon ship as long as one gun can fire" | | | |
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 | | 13 Jun 2011 06:51 PM | | I am well familiar with the tales of heroism from that engagement. I have even walked it's decks. But in all fairness, the crew of the Laffey is in second behind a 2-way tie for first place between the Glowworm and the DEs of Taffy 3. | | | Battling: SMS Scharnhorst, SMS Baden
Building: HMS KGV (Drives, pumps water, guns are in but not plumbed)
MN Edgar Quinet (Hull done)
Drydock/Mothballed: Rus Evstafi, DKM Lutzow, HMS Invincible
Plus 20-odd other projects, according to my Boy Scouts who thoughtfully counted them for me. | |
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Anachronus
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 | | 13 Jun 2011 08:03 PM | | DE's any day.
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 | | 13 Jun 2011 08:18 PM | | Not to diminish the courage of the men aboard Laffey, the thongs of whose sandals I am not fit to tie, what I am saying is: The level of courage required to do AIII!!! (Ahead Flank Cavitate) TOWARDS overwhelming force in the face of certain doom is manlier than that required to 'merely' fight to survive. The DE's of Taffy 3 are my frikkin heroes. No man in Valhalla can look down upon them, and that's saying an awful lot. "Go tell the Spartans, thou who passest by,
That here, obedient to their laws, we lie." | | | Battling: SMS Scharnhorst, SMS Baden
Building: HMS KGV (Drives, pumps water, guns are in but not plumbed)
MN Edgar Quinet (Hull done)
Drydock/Mothballed: Rus Evstafi, DKM Lutzow, HMS Invincible
Plus 20-odd other projects, according to my Boy Scouts who thoughtfully counted them for me. | |
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H-Class
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 | | 14 Jun 2011 12:31 PM | | Heh, Taffy 3 blew Musashis bow off, didnt they? | | | |
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Anachronus
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 | | 14 Jun 2011 12:43 PM | | She was part of Kurita's fleet on that operation but did not make it to Samar. She was sunk on the way.
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 | | 04 Aug 2011 08:37 AM | | What I would love to see in the remake: The gun duel between Bismarck and the ORP Piorun, where the Polish Captain announces that they are Pol before firing, giving the British destroyers a chance to close and make their torpedo runs. | | | I am from the Government, and I am here to help.
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Zeke
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 | | 22 Oct 2011 10:40 AM | | sounds nice would be cool to watch | | | |
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Anachronus
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 | | 22 Oct 2011 03:17 PM | | Makes me want to battle one. Tuggy do you have plans for the N-Class?
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 | | 22 Oct 2011 09:54 PM | | I'll check tomorrow after the battle is over  Too tired to read straight at the moment!  | | | Battling: SMS Scharnhorst, SMS Baden
Building: HMS KGV (Drives, pumps water, guns are in but not plumbed)
MN Edgar Quinet (Hull done)
Drydock/Mothballed: Rus Evstafi, DKM Lutzow, HMS Invincible
Plus 20-odd other projects, according to my Boy Scouts who thoughtfully counted them for me. | |
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