webwookie
Lieutenant
Posts:377
 | | 12 Jun 2008 07:43 PM | | | | | FNS Mogador (1/144): laid down
Russian Destroyer Kapitan Belli (1/144): laid down
USS Gearing, DD-710 (1/144): stricken
USS Chevalier, DD-805 (1/144): approved
V-108 (1/96): under consideration
Z-25 (1/144): fitting out underway | |
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RichelieuBB
Veteran
Rear Admiral (RDML)
Posts:1419
| | 12 Jun 2008 07:51 PM | | Very nice! | | Mike Mangus
Beware the French Revolution!
Operational:
HMS Erin DN
FN Richelieu BB
FN Verite PDN
Launched
Le Requin Xebec (AoS)
Under Construction:
FN Mogador DE
FN Gascogne BB (Treaty)
FN Bretagne (1/96) (delayed)
Mothballed:
FN Bearn CV
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Anachronus
Rear Admiral (RADM)
Posts:2286
| | 13 Jun 2008 07:10 AM | | Very. I am going to attempt it this weekend. At least make a start at it.
Are you sure that rib#2 is correct? It does not seem tall enough for the forecastle.
*Edit* I refer to the .pdf version.
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Anachronus
Rear Admiral (RADM)
Posts:2286
| | 15 Jun 2008 03:10 PM | | Printed the plans out. They fit very neatly on 11x17" paper. I did crop the keel sheet just to make sure every thing was within the printable area.
Damn, she is small. I have to see if she will float.
Though I guess as this is a German Torpedoboote I should say he.
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webwookie
Lieutenant
Posts:377
| | 15 Jun 2008 07:24 PM | | I just noticed that rib #1 is missing from the pdf; that's the one that should be taller and reach the forecastle deck. I'll correct that and have the updated file probably posted sometime tomorrow in addition to cropping down the largest sheet so that the dimensions are already set for 11x17 paper. | | | FNS Mogador (1/144): laid down
Russian Destroyer Kapitan Belli (1/144): laid down
USS Gearing, DD-710 (1/144): stricken
USS Chevalier, DD-805 (1/144): approved
V-108 (1/96): under consideration
Z-25 (1/144): fitting out underway | |
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Anachronus
Rear Admiral (RADM)
Posts:2286
| | 15 Jun 2008 08:48 PM | | Yes, it was I was just being a bit paranoid as it was a tight fit. Plus I have had issues with that particular printer before.
Silly me not counting the notches in the keel correctly. I really should have been resorting to counting with fingers this weekend.
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webwookie
Lieutenant
Posts:377
| | 16 Jun 2008 04:23 AM | | Rib #1 is in the updated .pdf on page 4. Each sheet also specifies part(s) thickness. Note that ribs 4, 5, and 6 are actually identical. | | | FNS Mogador (1/144): laid down
Russian Destroyer Kapitan Belli (1/144): laid down
USS Gearing, DD-710 (1/144): stricken
USS Chevalier, DD-805 (1/144): approved
V-108 (1/96): under consideration
Z-25 (1/144): fitting out underway | |
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Greg McFadden
Rear Admiral (RDML)
Posts:1439
| | 16 Jun 2008 08:12 AM | | looking good.. I look forward to seeing it finished | | | |
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Anachronus
Rear Admiral (RADM)
Posts:2286
| | 16 Jun 2008 09:28 AM | | I am interested to see if it will float. What sort of weight are we looking at (assuming some one has calculated it.) About a pound or so?
421 tons heavy displacement for the real thing.
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webwookie
Lieutenant
Posts:377
| | 22 Jun 2008 05:59 PM | | I believe that 0.87lbs was the computed estimate for displacement at indicated waterline. | | | FNS Mogador (1/144): laid down
Russian Destroyer Kapitan Belli (1/144): laid down
USS Gearing, DD-710 (1/144): stricken
USS Chevalier, DD-805 (1/144): approved
V-108 (1/96): under consideration
Z-25 (1/144): fitting out underway | |
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Anachronus
Rear Admiral (RADM)
Posts:2286
| | 22 Jun 2008 07:26 PM | | quote:
Originally posted by webwookie
I believe that 0.87lbs was the computed estimate for displacement at indicated waterline.
That is a bit heavier than I worked out. Which is not a bad thing. | | | Vive la France! | |
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webwookie
Lieutenant
Posts:377
| | 22 Jun 2008 08:35 PM | | quote:
Originally posted by Anachronus
quote:
Originally posted by webwookie
I believe that 0.87lbs was the computed estimate for displacement at indicated waterline.
That is a bit heavier than I worked out. Which is not a bad thing.
This was with the added hull volume. I assume that the 0.33lb value you found was based upon scaling the real ship's numbers? | | | FNS Mogador (1/144): laid down
Russian Destroyer Kapitan Belli (1/144): laid down
USS Gearing, DD-710 (1/144): stricken
USS Chevalier, DD-805 (1/144): approved
V-108 (1/96): under consideration
Z-25 (1/144): fitting out underway | |
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Anachronus
Rear Admiral (RADM)
Posts:2286
| | 22 Jun 2008 09:01 PM | | Right. 421 tons times 2204 divided by 144 cubed. That was how the weight calculations were explained to me a while back. quote:
Originally posted by webwookie
quote:
Originally posted by Anachronus
quote:
Originally posted by webwookie
I believe that 0.87lbs was the computed estimate for displacement at indicated waterline.
That is a bit heavier than I worked out. Which is not a bad thing.
This was with the added hull volume. I assume that the 0.33lb value you found was based upon scaling the real ship's numbers?
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Anachronus
Rear Admiral (RADM)
Posts:2286
| | 23 Jun 2008 01:23 PM | | Of course IRCWCC gives you +25% or 1 lb. Which ever is greater
MWC gives +25% or +10% and a lb, which ever is bigger.
I have not been able to find the Biggun rules.
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JohnmCA72
Commander
Posts:701
| | 23 Jun 2008 02:30 PM | | quote:
Originally posted by Anachronus
Of course IRCWCC gives you +25% or 1 lb. Which ever is greater
MWC gives +25% or +10% and a lb, which ever is bigger.
I have not been able to find the Biggun rules.
Most (all?) Big Gun clubs don't specify weights, only that ships float at scale water line. JM | | | |
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Anachronus
Rear Admiral (RADM)
Posts:2286
| | 23 Jun 2008 02:45 PM | | Well that explains that.
One thing else I have noticed. The keel has 7 notches and there are 8 ribs. How far back from the stem should rib 1 be?
Or on closer examination, where should #2 be?
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webwookie
Lieutenant
Posts:377
| | 23 Jun 2008 07:14 PM | | quote:
Originally posted by Anachronus
Well that explains that.
One thing else I have noticed. The keel has 7 notches and there are 8 ribs. How far back from the stem should rib 1 be?
Or on closer examination, where should #2 be?
Good catch, a keel notch for rib #2 is missing; yet another oops on my part. I'll take a look in the morning. | | | FNS Mogador (1/144): laid down
Russian Destroyer Kapitan Belli (1/144): laid down
USS Gearing, DD-710 (1/144): stricken
USS Chevalier, DD-805 (1/144): approved
V-108 (1/96): under consideration
Z-25 (1/144): fitting out underway | |
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Anachronus
Rear Admiral (RADM)
Posts:2286
| | 23 Jun 2008 07:32 PM | | It is a work in progress. I consider myself a beta tester. | | | Vive la France! | |
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Tugboat
Veteran
Admiral
Posts:4544
| | 05 Jul 2008 10:25 PM | | I have the ribs layed out in 1/96 for a beta-test on how cheaply one can get into Battlestations. The torps will be single-shot spring-powered ones. The props are made from pennies :) (drilling the little buggers dead center is tricky! FAQ to come if I get time, didn't take any pics while doing them.
Short form:
1) Draw a 3/4" circle on the computer, with a dot in the dead center of it.
2) Make at least 2 of these. (might need more if you slip and drill off-center)
3) Cut them out and glue them to copper pennies.
4) Centerpunch the dot in the middle of each penny.
5) Drill a 1/8" hole in each penny.
6) Sit a 1/8" collar over the hole on each side, clamping them in some vice grips.
7) Use a blowtorch to solder the collars to the penny. Repeat for all pennies you're doing.
8) Use a dremel with cutting wheel to cut the outside of the penny into sections... two cuts for a 2-blade, 3 cuts for a 3-blade, etc.
9) Use pliers to bend the blades to an asthetically pleasing angle.
10) Mount them to your shafts and bon apetit! Good hunting!
*I got the idea from an article on the Big Gun Naval War College, but figured pennies would substitute well for thick copper sheet for 3/4" props. | | | Battling: SMS Scharnhorst, SMS Baden
Building: HMS KGV (Drives, pumps water, guns are in but not plumbed)
MN Edgar Quinet (Hull done)
Drydock/Mothballed: Rus Evstafi, DKM Lutzow, HMS Invincible
Plus 20-odd other projects, according to my Boy Scouts who thoughtfully counted them for me. | |
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Anachronus
Rear Admiral (RADM)
Posts:2286
| | 06 Jul 2008 08:51 AM | | Considering how much trouble I have been having with the 1/144 ribs I might just scale up. Broke 2 this morning but will press on. Weather permitting. | | | Vive la France! | |
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