Spudsy's Group Build Project
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25 Nov 2011 07:47 AM
Sorry, that's a Roberts class monitor, my bad, I mis-remembered.

I meant Roberts class.
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26 Nov 2011 09:47 AM

 I can not find any line drawings for the HMS Neptune.  I have at least 40 sets of drawings in my tube cabinet.  After doing my honeydos I will go dig them out and we will run a poll to see which one we build.  

 

Hopefully we have at least 4 or five building with us.

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26 Nov 2011 06:23 PM
I would probably be interested in getting into this group build, i have a couple ships being worked on now but there is always room for one more
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26 Nov 2011 11:23 PM

Well, we need to decide on a ship that will provide the most builders for the group at start.

I luv the VU myself, yea there are a few out there but there is a reason for that....  it's a good ship to battle.  We don't want to build a lemon 

 

The VU has 4 units, twin rudders, and is fat and short......  Great ship to get into furballs with.  Her hull lines are simple and would make a good build for the first timers.

 

 

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26 Nov 2011 11:25 PM

Does anybody have line drawings for the Neptune. I have the VU, but can not find any for the Neptune.

 

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01 Dec 2011 07:22 PM

I vote for the SMS Helgoland or Nassau class DN's.  I'd love to see how well that hexagonal turret layout would work for sidemounts

 

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02 Dec 2011 04:37 AM
The Helgoland has a very pretty bow, or is that just me?
And thats a very interesting turret formation, could prove very usefull, depending on how many you could arm.
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02 Dec 2011 08:30 AM

Helgoland is a nice ship. It gets 4.5 units in fast gun with two sidemounts (one per quadrant). Three shafts and twin rudders gives it very good turning. There is a few battling very effectively in IRCWCC. Very tough to pin one down long enough to put damage on it.

 

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02 Dec 2011 08:37 AM

 You would have 3 guns, 1 pump.  2-50 bb mag guns and 1-75 bb mag gun.

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02 Dec 2011 11:00 AM
So 75 on rear, with each 50 covering a forward quadrant, or pick one forward quadrant for the 75 and put both 50s on the stern turret?
Most fast gun ships I've seen prefer the stern to other turrets...
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02 Dec 2011 11:43 AM
Your stern sidemount is your best gun, put the 75 rounds here.
Stern gun, in a wing turret with 50.
Either a bow sidemount or a wing turret sidemount with the other 50. The wing turret sidemount is a little crazy, but not that crazy. It's really hard to chase people with a stern sidemount, a bow sidemount might be more usefull in a slow ship. Plus there's not much to shoot at so chasing sterns, normaly a very bad idea, is a little safer.
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02 Dec 2011 12:07 PM
Agrred with Bob ... a 75 round haymaker in the stern is deadly.

For those feeling a bit adventerous and don't mind giving up a ranged stern gun, the wing turret stern gun can be angled out and down 15 degrees opposite of the haymaker for a little extra offensive defense on the open stern side. The Helgoland is manuverable enough to line up good shots with it.

And of course a bow sidemount for the times you catch a ship napping.
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02 Dec 2011 11:23 PM
Do you guys have the rib drawing?
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02 Dec 2011 11:30 PM
There is a Nassau fibreglass hull already, but the helgoland class would also be nice for a slightly more spacious build.
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02 Dec 2011 11:31 PM

 I will have to get the lines on some of the ships.....  The Hegoland would be a good build too..

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04 Dec 2011 05:34 PM

 I do have a nice set of plans for a smaller ship I drew up back in 2002.  It was from a set of lines I had for a model contest that I converted up to 1/144 scale.  She is a very small ship, but would be a great FUN build.

 

The De Zeven Provencien  CAE 1909, class 2 , 26 speed, 2.5 units.  About 28 inches long and just under 5 inches beam.

 

Here is a model shot.

 

 

 

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This could be a very good ship for a group build as the cost is minimal and could be done on a small table in the house.....  so several people could join the build...

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05 Dec 2011 06:55 AM
Try contacting Tom Tanner about plans for this ship. He sails one, is into scale and also has a lot of info on the world war one German ships from a source in Germany.

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05 Dec 2011 07:54 AM
The armoured cruisers are a blast to drive in battle, I highly recommend them. But watch out for the ram bow! I had no ram penalties in 6 years, then deployed Lil Scharnie with her ram bow and single driven prop, and whammo!
Battling: SMS Scharnhorst, SMS Baden Building: HMS KGV (Drives, pumps water, guns are in but not plumbed) MN Edgar Quinet (Hull done) Drydock/Mothballed: Rus Evstafi, DKM Lutzow, HMS Invincible Plus 20-odd other projects, according to my Boy Scouts who thoughtfully counted them for me.
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05 Dec 2011 08:22 AM
Posted By Ron Hunt on 05 Dec 2011 06:55 AM
Try contacting Tom Tanner about plans for this ship. He sails one, is into scale and also has a lot of info on the world war one German ships from a source in Germany.

Ron Hunt

 

Yes, its a nice ship.  I have a set of sheets for her.  Very detailed.  They where for a model contest in Europe sponsored by the NVM in the Netherlands.  Never finished my plug due to the Army...

 

Here is a shot of the old plug.  Was close to being done, needed some filling and sanding still.

 

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Did he frame it or glass hull?

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05 Dec 2011 11:59 AM
Just realized that on the length to beam analysis i did last summer, the Provencien's 16.5% ratio was the highest of any ship on the list except for DNs and PDNs. It even beat out the BBs like the SoDak. The Prov shold be a very good turning ship!
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