German Battleship Gneisenau - IRCWCC Rules
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23 Jun 2010 07:55 PM

Having battled a Scharnhorst that belonged to an OAF (Ontario Attack Force) member all of last summer, I decided last fall to order my own. Unfortunately due to college I haven't had much time to work on it until recently. I will be building mine as the sistership Gneisenau, to IRCWCC rules. It will be a 5.5unit ship, with a 1.0 unit pump, 1 x 1.0 unit 50bb cannon sidemount, 1 x 1.5 unit 75bb cannon sidemount, and dual 1.0 unit cannons on the stern (subject to change).

This is everything I ordered from BC. The Gneisenau hull, deck kit, rolled plans, main/secondary/aa turrets & barbettes, rudders & posts, props, shafts, 1.0 unit pump, 540 size motors, wiring,some free balsa & silkspan and some other misc stuff.

 

 

Unfortunately the ship came with Scharnhorst plans, but luckily I have been able to collect a wealth of info & pics on some of the differences between it and Gneisenau (including the hanger, masts, and bridge).

 

The Stern view shows a slight mold seam which will have to be fixed with some bondo-like substance to make it even again.

 

Bow view showing some of the damage received during shipping.

 

Inside the hull...

 

This is where I am at right now, having just finished marking out all the hull windows. I am going with 26 x 1/4" ribs, and a 1/8" stringer for the armour belt.

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23 Jun 2010 08:43 PM
Nice looking hull.
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24 Jun 2010 10:41 AM
I looks like you're going to cut out too much of the hull below the waterline. You need to be 1" below the water line. The tape you've marked looks a lot lower, but could judt be the photo. Put about 27lbs in it and mark the waterline. Cut 1" down from there. You don't want to run this ship at max weight 28lbs is the most.
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24 Jun 2010 11:25 AM
You may well be right, which is why I haven't cut anything so far. The bottom line was based on the "scale" waterline.

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13 Jul 2010 10:06 PM
Stupid question, if use a 1/4" marked waterline, do I have to cut the windows 1" below the bottom edge of the waterline, from the top edge, or from the centre?
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13 Jul 2010 10:07 PM
Bottom Edge of the waterline.
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14 Jul 2010 05:54 AM
Before you cut, I'd stick it in a pool or lake, and ballast it to max weight to make sure you can make a non-scale waterline... if it won't make it, you'd have to unsheet it and cut the bottom of the windows more, a real pain. Good insurance to make sure she can hit your intended waterline before cutting
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14 Jul 2010 07:27 AM
Well, it is marked for the scale waterline already, which is from what I'm told, already too low for max weight. I'm waiting for a nice day to take it back to the pond and remark the waterline.
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Under Construction: Henri IV & DKM Gneisenau
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04 Aug 2010 09:00 AM
Doesn't Scharnhorst have a stringer? The one I have does have one.
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04 Aug 2010 03:09 PM
It has a visible armor belt, so it gets a stringer
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04 Aug 2010 03:15 PM
Thought so, but I didn't see one taped out.
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04 Aug 2010 03:30 PM
Isn't that what the blue tape is? It does not run all the way to bow and stern so can't be the waterline tape.

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04 Aug 2010 04:45 PM
If that is the water line and he only went 1" lower then the hull of the ship is about 2" tall!!!!
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04 Aug 2010 06:07 PM

No, that looks like the stringer taped out.

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04 Aug 2010 06:31 PM
the blue line marks the top of the armour belt, which is where the stringer will be. it is not the waterline.
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29 Mar 2011 11:26 PM

Deck/Subdeck assembly 

Subdeck/deck assembly glued together & clamp (some have been removed already). Subdeck/deck has been sanded to fit into the hull, but not yet glued. Also have the hole for the drive shaft drilled out. more pictures to follow when I find my camera again.

Chase H.
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Under Construction: Henri IV & DKM Gneisenau
Battlestations 1/96
Planned: Charlemagne Class
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30 Mar 2011 07:20 AM
Hmmm... never seen them glued together outside of the hull, interesting. Looking forward to the build I still have a Big Scharnie sitting on the wall awaiting refit, also to IRCWCC rules.
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30 Mar 2011 07:30 PM
well, I understand that a lot of people seem to glue the deck so that it is stuck on top of the rim of the hull, with the subdeck glued flush with the top of the rim of the hull. I didn't care for that look, so i decided to glue the two pieces together outside of the hull, sand them to fit, and I will be epoxying them to the hull, deck flush with the top of the hull. One of the other guys in the OAF does something similar with his ships, and I really liked the way it turned out.

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Under Construction: Henri IV & DKM Gneisenau
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30 Mar 2011 09:48 PM

That's the way I glue my decks in also. For the same reasons.

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31 Mar 2011 04:54 AM
Chase,
She's look good!! Have fun with her ok!!
Nikki
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