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04 Aug 2008 06:27 PM
It's really not even an issue. It's something else to break with limited usefulness. Time spent on that system would be better spent on offensive systems.
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04 Aug 2008 07:32 PM
Hmmm... I will have to ask my opponents to kindly not empty their guns into me then, in order to avoid changing their waterline :)

Actually, I found a rule that effectively bans the system... your actual waterline must be within 1/8" of the marked waterline. Almost any tilt would change the waterline more than that (even a modest 5 degree tilt!). So while the system isn't technically illegal, the result of using the system is. While the ship's waterline changes with damage, that implies that a waterline deviation without damage results in an unseaworthy sink, and following, that because the list is ordered by the captain... it's a declared sink, worth double bonus dollars :)
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04 Aug 2008 07:48 PM
I think if it can be done within the set up of the current rules then i say do it. For my money, how many people would really employ a weight shift system? Second thing is that like all systems it is subject to breaking down when you most need it. Then of course can the boat support it and how much weight?
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05 Aug 2008 07:22 AM
This is also this:

3. The center of the marked waterline of the model must be within 1/8" of the actual floating waterline of the model.
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05 Aug 2008 09:34 AM
Tug and Spec you are saying that at anytime your ship tilts in a turn, and is no longer within 1/8 inch of the waterline, your trying to tell me that your ship is now illegal. Really now you all are trying to come up with anything now to justify your reasoning.

Just post a rule change next year to clear the issue up, end of story.

But I have to agree with yamatoman that its really a non-issue anyways, since I have never seen or heard of anyone doing it.

And like I have said, I have no plans myself to do it, its just somthing that could be done as the rules are written now very easily.
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05 Aug 2008 11:19 AM
If you see something that looks against the rules, you are sposed to challange it.

It does not do anyone any good to whine about it after the fact.

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05 Aug 2008 11:25 AM
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Originally posted by djranier
...and the side throw will be for my new active list control. What is that you ask?

When I come along side of someone on the port or starboard side, I will move the stick over, a servo will shift (4 to 6 oz's of weight, still needs to be determined) to the side which causes her to list over, so I will have less freeboard showing, my guns will be in a sweet spot, since the list is controllable, and a stern haymaker on the opposing ship should just shoot close to parallel to the side of my hull, while the forward guns will just hit my deck.


If you were talking hypothetically, I apologize for misreading your intent. That message is where I got my impression that you wanted to use active ballast.

Your point about heeling over in turns is valid though, especially for cruisers.

But no new rules. I'm tired of the silly season rulemaking drama on the mailing list, anyway. That's why I asked Brian to remove me from the members list in the first place. God only knows what new members think when they read that stuff...

Battling: SMS Scharnhorst, SMS Baden Building: HMS KGV (Drives, pumps water, guns are in but not plumbed) MN Edgar Quinet (Hull done) Drydock/Mothballed: Rus Evstafi, DKM Lutzow, HMS Invincible Plus 20-odd other projects, according to my Boy Scouts who thoughtfully counted them for me.
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