JKN
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 | | 02 Feb 2011 08:01 PM | | I don't know where to post this so I'll put it here. I am having trouble building the Indiana, Mike Mangus made it loooks so easy on his build tread and was wondering if any one had tips on how to get the parts to fit better and how to get the nice curved ribs, I can only get wavy ribs , the keel and ribs dont want to join right so far it has become a disaster!!!!   | | | |
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Anachronus
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 | | 02 Feb 2011 08:35 PM | | Cut them a little too big then sand to fit.
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JKN
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 | | 02 Feb 2011 08:54 PM | | So when he origionally cut them they were wavy too? | | | |
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Anachronus
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 | | 02 Feb 2011 09:17 PM | | How do you mean wavy? Warped?
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JKN
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 | | 02 Feb 2011 09:26 PM | | when i cut them they werent exactly smooth and nicely rounded, the cut was wavy , his look all so smooth and controled contour | | | |
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Tugboat Veteran
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 | | 02 Feb 2011 10:33 PM | | Glue your paper ribs outlines to the wood, and when you cut, cut like 1/16" to 1/8" outside the lines, if you're having trouble staying right on the line. Then, use some kind of power sander (I prefer a belt sander) to get the ribs to the lines  If you don't have a power sander, just go slowly, and always be a little outside the lines. Do the best you can, and don't judge your efforts too harshly against experts! Get it built, and in the process, you will learn lessons on what to do next time, and the next  If possible, go to a build session with a battler near you who has built a ship from wood before. | | | Battling: SMS Scharnhorst, SMS Baden
Building: HMS KGV (Drives, pumps water, guns are in but not plumbed)
MN Edgar Quinet (Hull done)
Drydock/Mothballed: Rus Evstafi, DKM Lutzow, HMS Invincible
Plus 20-odd other projects, according to my Boy Scouts who thoughtfully counted them for me. | |
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Anachronus
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 | | 02 Feb 2011 11:12 PM | | Tug is stating what I mean. Cut too big and sand to shape. | | | Vive la France! | |
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JKN
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 | | 03 Feb 2011 10:28 AM | | If only I knew when the soonest Treaty build session was. | | | |
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Tugboat Veteran
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 | | 03 Feb 2011 11:41 AM | | I would go down to the Treaty forum and make a post asking just that! Not blowing you off, I honestly think it'd get attention from the right people there.
The cool thing is that doing the 'cut it big, then sand to shape' method is a good fast way to get good looking frames. | | | Battling: SMS Scharnhorst, SMS Baden
Building: HMS KGV (Drives, pumps water, guns are in but not plumbed)
MN Edgar Quinet (Hull done)
Drydock/Mothballed: Rus Evstafi, DKM Lutzow, HMS Invincible
Plus 20-odd other projects, according to my Boy Scouts who thoughtfully counted them for me. | |
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RichelieuBB Veteran
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 | | 04 Feb 2011 11:37 AM | | Curious, I looked up the BB-1 Indiana just to take a look at it. The ship is rather nice looking IMO.  After crunching numbers to get it into our scale, I was shocked to see how small the ship is. In 144th scale, it is only 29.25" long with a 5.75" beam. That is tiny! I popped the dimensions into the handy rib calc spreadsheet. Keeping a 2" solid bow and a half inch solid stern, we get seven 1/4" ribs (or ten 3/16" ribs). Wow. Not a lot of ribs to make. That is nice! Josh, this is going to be a very interesting little ship. Keep at it!  | | Mike Mangus
Beware the French Revolution! Operational:
HMS Erin DN
FN Richelieu BB
FN Verite PDN
Launched
Le Requin Xebec (AoS)
Under Construction:
FN Mogador DE
FN Gascogne BB (Treaty)
FN Bretagne (1/96) (delayed)
Mothballed:
FN Bearn CV
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JKN
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 | | 04 Feb 2011 11:58 AM | | I may not be able to out run your Richelieu, I might out turn it, but I can easily positoin myself so it is almost impossible to get a shot at any thing penetrable | | | |
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JKN
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 | | 04 Feb 2011 12:04 PM | | I will have 2 1/4 ribs and 7 1/8(they measure 3/32) ribs | | | |
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Tugboat Veteran
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 | | 04 Feb 2011 12:21 PM | | Not to give Mike any ideas... but ya know that the big boats can push up against you, and steer you, right? Not that I've driven a Predread against big ships, but, yeah. That's the size of it  | | | Battling: SMS Scharnhorst, SMS Baden
Building: HMS KGV (Drives, pumps water, guns are in but not plumbed)
MN Edgar Quinet (Hull done)
Drydock/Mothballed: Rus Evstafi, DKM Lutzow, HMS Invincible
Plus 20-odd other projects, according to my Boy Scouts who thoughtfully counted them for me. | |
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JKN
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 | | 04 Feb 2011 01:00 PM | | Thats why I will Stay as far away from shore and let them come to me:} | | | |
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JKN
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 | | 04 Feb 2011 01:03 PM | | Also my haul is so small it probly cant hold a gallon of water, but my pump will be 1gpm if I have twin 75 round guns or it will be 1.75gpm if I have twin 50 rounders  | | | |
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Tugboat Veteran
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 | | 04 Feb 2011 02:19 PM | | I was running two 50 rounders and a full unit pump (it was just before the rule change), and danced mightily. Just be aware that the big ships can steer you if they catch you. | | | Battling: SMS Scharnhorst, SMS Baden
Building: HMS KGV (Drives, pumps water, guns are in but not plumbed)
MN Edgar Quinet (Hull done)
Drydock/Mothballed: Rus Evstafi, DKM Lutzow, HMS Invincible
Plus 20-odd other projects, according to my Boy Scouts who thoughtfully counted them for me. | |
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JKN
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 | | 04 Feb 2011 03:30 PM | | Yeah, but why come after me when I all ready have my stern to you when im 30 or more feet from shore, the moment you go to get my side I will turn and give you some stern gun love  | | | |
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Darren Scott Veteran
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 | | 04 Feb 2011 05:36 PM | | So hull contact is allowed in fastgun, and pushing the other ships around? Didn't know that, it's positivley discouraged in biggun here. | | | Have Battleship, will travel...... | |
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JKN
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 | | 04 Feb 2011 05:45 PM | | Well with fatgun your usually close to eachother tohit eachother with bbs so bumping is impossible to keep from happening. But is frowned apon if it is on purpose like T-boneing a Yamato with a Mogador, or something of that speed like a Magomi | | | |
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RichelieuBB Veteran
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 | | 04 Feb 2011 05:56 PM | | *beats his chest* Sterns guns do not scare me! RRraaaarrrr! | | Mike Mangus
Beware the French Revolution! Operational:
HMS Erin DN
FN Richelieu BB
FN Verite PDN
Launched
Le Requin Xebec (AoS)
Under Construction:
FN Mogador DE
FN Gascogne BB (Treaty)
FN Bretagne (1/96) (delayed)
Mothballed:
FN Bearn CV
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