R/C Naval Combat

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Originally posted by pew-pew-pew

WWCC Lets you arm all main guns, I'm Not sure if you can arm secondaries...

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WWCC is the only Big Gun club that limits the armament. Depending on the tonnage and class, you are allowed various amounts of pumps and primary cannons. You can exchange one primary cannon for two secondary cannons. It is still big gun, and is nothing like the unit system in fast gun.

knowing me the first thing id do is take it apart i know how the cannons work and motors props work i just get confused with micro chips but i do understand what they do

so u dont have to worry id know exactly what i was doing but thats just me i like taking things apart

The Unit System in fastgun is strange. I wish you just arm it like big gun.

Strange enough that on Monday morning, the 27th annual MWC Nationals will be taking place using that system, which it inherited from an even older club. Might be a sign that it's a good system.

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Originally posted by TRich19

im talkin fast gun and what ship do you have

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Sorry, I was thrown off by the topic title, "The Big Gun Cannon" & thought that was the format being discussed.

JM

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Originally posted by Tugboat

Strange enough that on Monday morning, the 27th annual MWC Nationals will be taking place using that system, which it inherited from an even older club. Might be a sign that it's a good system.

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Yea it might be but it seems strange.

john what kind of ship do u have whats its name i would really like to know what ship you armed with that many guns

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Originally posted by TRich19

john what kind of ship do u have whats its name i would really like to know what ship you armed with that many guns

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You may be confusing me with Mark, who's arming something with 13 turrets. I offered the "$150 rule", that ballparked a 3-turret ship at around $1050.

My operational ships are USS Pittsburgh (CA-72), HMS Nelson, HMS Hood, & USS Indiana (BB-58). All are more-or-less conventional, with only main batteries armed (although HMS Nelson has had a couple of armed secondary configurations added & removed).

JM

ok so mark waht ship did you arm with that many guns if you didnt already tell me

Mark is building a Yamato for Battlestations (1/96 scale, arm everything down to 3" guns)

I've got 3 cannon down, only ten left to go:) have some people working on that for me at the moment. Tug, the whole 5/16 thing for the main guns, I'm not going to continue with it, one it looks way out of scale and the benefits of the larger caliber don't outweigh the time delay, especially when dealing with the faster boats. Besides those little boats will sink just as surely from a direct hit from a triple 1/4" as they would from the 5/16". make ordering ammo easier too.

I agree with you on all of those :) But I thought it was an entertaining idea :)

Today I started building the workbench to house the jigsaw, and the sander & drill press that I just ordered from Harbor Freight. So very soon, the Yammers hammers will be coming....

Does it look way out of scale? I figured it would be a natural progression.

having 1/4" in 1/96 scale is equal to 24" in reality, so you guys who build 1n 1/144 scale should really be sticking to BB's

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Originally posted by Mark

having 1/4" in 1/96 scale is equal to 24" in reality, so you guys who build 1n 1/144 scale should really be sticking to BB's

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0.177" bbs in 1:144 scale up to almost 25.5". That's just a tad larger than what any of the ships modeled actually carried.

0.25" representing 16" scales out to 1:64. Other common ball bearing scale equivalents in 1:64:

7/32" -> 14" (appropriate for many BB, BC)
3/16" -> 12" (appropriate for Dreadnaughts, too large for CA where they're used now)
0.177" -> 11" (Scharnhorst, etc.)

Anybody who wants to get nitpicky about the scale of projectiles would also need to include the following:

18" -> 9/32" (for that Yamato/Musashi)
15" -> 15/64" (very common BB main battery)
8" -> 1/8" (CA main battery)
6" -> 3/32" (CL main battery)
5" -> 5/64" (common secondary battery, DD main)

Note that there's a pattern: Divide the size in inches by 64 & get a value that you're actually likely to find on a ruler! 1:64 is a "magic" scale for working with US units.

JM

I've been looking at Big Gun ships for so long that when I see a regular scale model I think that its too flimsy, and might get blown off at any moment ;)

Any more on cannon design/construction? ideas on torpedo systems anyone?

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Originally posted by Tugboat

I am building her for Battlestations. The hull is not complete, but I am testing control systems when I'm tired from painting the new house, etc. The plug will lead to a 1/96 scale Bismarck hull that I will produce :) Probably the biggest I will make, until I do a Yamato. I wasn't going to do a Yammer, but there are some people out there who build large Yamatos, and I will have a full set of molds for highly detailed 1/96 Yammer turrets and some detail pieces. So someday. But after I get Mark's turrets done for his baby, I'm getting Tirpitz waterborne so we can have a grand battle in Louisiana :) (Battlestations guys, Mogami hull will follow the Tirpitz hull, don't fret)

I am seriously considering getting a small boat trailer for Tirpitz, though. It's longer than the bed of my pickup by 2 feet and change.

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Perhaps a kayak trailer that has a rack for several hulls.

what are the tools that you need to build a big gun cannon?