Dustin
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 | | 09 May 2010 10:04 PM | | I am building a Richelieu, and over all I am doing alright with help from Mikey and Phil. My biggest question at the moment is what materials do I need to use for superstructure assemblies. I have read thqat some people use the Pink extruded styrene to good effect, but I drive a Civic and that is not very pratical for hauling a 4' x 8' sheet.  I have a lot of sheet styrene on hand, but I am worried that by building it tough enough to withstand a broadside, it will be quite top heavy. Can anyone shed some light on this for me? | | | Treaty:
FNS Emile Bertin (Stricken)
FNS Normandie (Stricken)
IJN Kirishima (Stricken)
FNS Volta (under construction)
DKM Ludendorff [O-Class BC] (planned)
Battlestations:
FNS Mogador (Battle Ready)
FNS Alsace (Canceled - too big to store/transport)
Big Gun:
FNS Richelieu (Stricken) | |
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Iceman
Rear Admiral (RDML)
Posts:1186
| | 09 May 2010 10:57 PM | | Foam covered by rubber(shower pan liner or some thing) Cut the foam before you put it in the car, problem solved... | | Rob A.
USS Alabama
USS Arizona
USS Saratoga
DKM Bismarck
USS John Brown
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Darren Scott
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Commander
Posts:751
| | 10 May 2010 02:20 AM | | I use foam from chopped up boogie boards, get them from kurbside cleanups, (free) and sheet it with birch ply. Light, very strong and cheap. | | | Still a proud member of the AUSBG! | |
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RichelieuBB
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| | 10 May 2010 08:42 AM | | I've heard of people using the foam kiddie blocks from a toy store to good effect. That is what the Omaha's superstructure will be make out of. | | Mike Mangus
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Operational:
HMS Erin DN
FN Richelieu BB
FN Verite PDN
Under Construction:
FN Mogador DE
FN Gascogne BB (Treaty)
FN Bretagne (1/96) (delayed)
Le Requin Xebec (AoS)
Mothballed:
FN Bearn CV
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froggyfrenchman
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| | 10 May 2010 01:12 PM | | If you decided to use the foam from Lowes, or Home depot, then you can cut it yourself at the store prior to putting it in your car.
The store folks will also probably be willing to cut it for you.
The kiddie blocks seem to work really well.
But a better solution might be to contact Strikemodels about purchasing a partial sheet of their closed cell foam that they use for their kits.
That will probably be what I use on my Alaska.
Mikey | | | |
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Knight4hire
Captain
Posts:884
| | 13 May 2010 09:03 AM | | We have found that Foamy works very well for superstructures.
I have been enlarging card models of ships to 144 scale then printing it on silk skin.
Cut the Foamy to size and dope the slik skin over the top.
Waiting for battle to see how well the printed silk skin hold up under fire. | | | I am from the Government, and I am here to help.
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mabgfounder
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Posts:32
| | 13 May 2010 01:16 PM | | Here is another vote for Foamie - I have found it to be - extremely light: The superstructure of my HMS Lion is built up of two layers of 6mm covered by a 2mm sheet and the weight doubled when I painted it.
- extremely damage resistant: In eight years of use the only damage my superstructure has taken are cracks in the paint and a few times entire sections have blown loose. The sections float, are easily recovered and reattached
- extreamly easy to work: The material can be cut with sissors, exacto knives, etc and sanded. The reason I cover my superstructures with a 2mm sheet is it allows me to have port holes and hatches. The superstructure I am building for Nassau has stair cases!
- cheap and locally available: It is carried by many craft store chains (Michaels, AC Moore, etc.) and is marketed for children's crafts (ie: cheap)
I really can not say enough about the stuff. | | | |
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Iceman
Rear Admiral (RDML)
Posts:1186
| | 14 May 2010 12:49 AM | | That stuff sounds great. Post some picts of it and your superstructure. I'd love to have port holes... | | Rob A.
USS Alabama
USS Arizona
USS Saratoga
DKM Bismarck
USS John Brown
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Knight4hire
Captain
Posts:884
| | 14 May 2010 12:37 PM | | If you go to the second page of "Show us your floats" you will see a VERY basic superstructure I had made out of foamy.
I am building another for that hull now, and I hope to have it very detailed. | | | I am from the Government, and I am here to help.
www.mabg.org | |
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Anachronus
Rear Admiral (RADM)
Posts:2182
| | 17 May 2010 11:16 AM | | Does the foamy play well with paints/glues or do some make it dissolve? | | | I am prepared to meet my maker, whether He is prepared for the ordeal of meeting me is another matter.
-Sir Winston- | |
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Knight4hire
Captain
Posts:884
| | 18 May 2010 08:30 AM | | Foamy takes paint VERY well. | | | I am from the Government, and I am here to help.
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Knight4hire
Captain
Posts:884
| | 18 May 2010 08:33 AM | | Also there is gray foamy out there.
I am trying it out now, so that I do not have to paint it. ( to help keep the CG low for small ships ) | | | I am from the Government, and I am here to help.
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Markus.Andersen
Midshipman
Posts:16
| | 18 May 2010 09:16 AM | | Is the "Foamy" equivalent to the model airplane material also known as Depron ?? "Two main types of Depron foam are open-cell (EPS) and closed-cell (XPS). XPS, extruded polystyrene foam is water resistant and has a variety of uses."
best regards Markus Andersen | | | |
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Knight4hire
Captain
Posts:884
| | 19 May 2010 01:50 PM | | After looking at numerous web site, I would say no.
Depron is much firmer than foamy.
The web sites show numerous aircraft with 6mm Depron wings. 6mm foamy would not make a very good wing. | | | I am from the Government, and I am here to help.
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Knight4hire
Captain
Posts:884
| | 19 May 2010 01:54 PM | | My next thought is that Depron might be better for the decks of a superstructure.
I shall try to check that out! | | | I am from the Government, and I am here to help.
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Dustin
Veteran
Ensign
Posts:220
| | 21 May 2010 11:25 AM | | I have some Midwest Cellfoam on hand. Will this work as well? | | | Treaty:
FNS Emile Bertin (Stricken)
FNS Normandie (Stricken)
IJN Kirishima (Stricken)
FNS Volta (under construction)
DKM Ludendorff [O-Class BC] (planned)
Battlestations:
FNS Mogador (Battle Ready)
FNS Alsace (Canceled - too big to store/transport)
Big Gun:
FNS Richelieu (Stricken) | |
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Anachronus
Rear Admiral (RADM)
Posts:2182
| | 21 May 2010 12:41 PM | | You have to be careful with that. I have had it dissolve with some glues. | | | I am prepared to meet my maker, whether He is prepared for the ordeal of meeting me is another matter.
-Sir Winston- | |
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Dustin
Veteran
Ensign
Posts:220
| | 22 May 2010 08:37 PM | | Well the Midwest Cellfoam is a no go. BBs go right through it. They didn't even stop for a hello... | | | Treaty:
FNS Emile Bertin (Stricken)
FNS Normandie (Stricken)
IJN Kirishima (Stricken)
FNS Volta (under construction)
DKM Ludendorff [O-Class BC] (planned)
Battlestations:
FNS Mogador (Battle Ready)
FNS Alsace (Canceled - too big to store/transport)
Big Gun:
FNS Richelieu (Stricken) | |
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Dustin
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Ensign
Posts:220
| | 09 Jun 2010 11:41 AM | | Posted By Knight4hire on 13 May 2010 09:03 AM
We have found that Foamy works very well for superstructures.
I have been enlarging card models of ships to 144 scale then printing it on silk skin.
Cut the Foamy to size and dope the slik skin over the top.
Waiting for battle to see how well the printed silk skin hold up under fire. What type of printer did you use? | | | Treaty:
FNS Emile Bertin (Stricken)
FNS Normandie (Stricken)
IJN Kirishima (Stricken)
FNS Volta (under construction)
DKM Ludendorff [O-Class BC] (planned)
Battlestations:
FNS Mogador (Battle Ready)
FNS Alsace (Canceled - too big to store/transport)
Big Gun:
FNS Richelieu (Stricken) | |
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Knight4hire
Captain
Posts:884
| | 09 Jun 2010 02:51 PM | | An Epson Artisan 710 All-in-One Printer, this time.
| | | I am from the Government, and I am here to help.
www.mabg.org | |
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