HorribleHarry
Ensign
Posts:52
 | | 15 Sep 2008 01:40 AM | | Hello all, I am rebuilding the superstructure of my ship (balsa & plywood) & I haven't seen any real guide to what is standard practice for sealing these structures. I have heard people use 20 min. epoxy, fiberglass resin, spar urethane & dope. What do you all use to waterproof & strengthen your wooden structure & decks with? Or could you steer me towards a source of information?
Thank you,
Harry
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Iceman
Rear Admiral (RDML)
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| | 15 Sep 2008 02:51 AM | | I use fiberglass resin. Others I know use west systems marine epoxy. That really is probably the best but it's pricy. | | Rob A.
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Tugboat
Veteran
Admiral
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| | 15 Sep 2008 05:46 AM | | I've used both West epoxy and spar urethane. West is better for ultimate waterproofing, but given the abuse my superstructures take, spar varnish gets the job done much more cheaply. So when I replace the SS, I'm not using more of the precious, spendy West, just some more varnish. | | | |
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SnipeHunter
Commander
Posts:701
| | 15 Sep 2008 07:05 AM | | Since you're rebuilding your superstructure I would suggest considering rebuilding it out of ABS plastic instead of wood. Its light and holds up well under fire. Also its it rather easy to work with and you dont need to worry about waterproofing it. A sheet of 1/16" (24"x24") is fairly cheap (~$13 at mcmaster-carr). For the wood decks I use west system with the 207 hardener. | | | |
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Powder Monkey
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| | 15 Sep 2008 12:01 PM | | Snip where you get yours from | | IRCWCC Fast Guns New England Task Force, http://netfrc.com USS Massachusetts BB 59 South Dakota Class Battleship Awards
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SnipeHunter
Commander
Posts:701
| | 15 Sep 2008 12:27 PM | | quote:
Originally posted by Powder Monkey
Snip where you get yours from
where i get what from | | | |
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warspiteIRC
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Lieutenant
Posts:450
| | 15 Sep 2008 03:34 PM | | He said: mcmaster-carr (on the web) | | | |
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Powder Monkey
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Rear Admiral (RDML)
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| | 15 Sep 2008 04:34 PM | | NOT SUR IF THAT WAS IT OR NOT BUT I GUESS IT WAS | | IRCWCC Fast Guns New England Task Force, http://netfrc.com USS Massachusetts BB 59 South Dakota Class Battleship Awards
2008:
Nothing But Wet, and it sure was fun 2009:
Best of scale War Ship
Ball Buster award So do or do not. There is no try | |
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Stokamoto
Stokomoto
Vice Admiral
Posts:3727
| | 17 Sep 2008 12:39 PM | | Instead of the Abs try using Sintra instead. Easier to work with. | | | |
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John Clayborn
Midshipman
Posts:20
| | 13 Oct 2008 10:16 AM | | lol. If you want the superstructure to be able to show some damage and dont mind rebuilding it from time to time and you're just looking to water-proof the puppy you can use either Thompson's waterproofing (used for wooden decks on houses to protect from the rain), or some kind of wax coating. If you want to protect it from damage a fiberglass or epoxy coating is better. | | | |
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ironduke1916
Midshipman
Posts:12
| | 12 Nov 2009 11:28 AM | | probably a stupid question.....should the West System water-proofing process occur before or after painting? | | | |
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Greg McFadden
Rear Admiral (RDML)
Posts:1415
| | 12 Nov 2009 11:49 AM | | I've always coated with epoxy (west systems) prior to paint | | | |
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jadfer
Lieutenant Commander
Posts:570
| | 12 Nov 2009 01:00 PM | | My west systems epoxy's catalyst is yellow so it always has a yellow tint to the finished epoxy. I am going to look into epoxy pigments so I can epoxy in COLOR! | | | |
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jadfer
Lieutenant Commander
Posts:570
| | 12 Nov 2009 01:08 PM | | I found this link that might be helpful if you wanted to seal the deck with grey for example.
http://www.westsystem.com/ss/adding-pigments-to-epoxy/ | | | |
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webwookie
Lieutenant
Posts:377
| | 13 Nov 2009 10:39 PM | | While I doubt that anybody intended to have their ship constantly outdoors and exposed to the elements so as for it to make a difference, West Systems epoxy is not considered a final coat finish due to its limited UV stability (although using 207 hardener does yield a more UV tolerant composite matrix). | | | FNS Mogador (1/144): laid down
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