Greg McFadden
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 | | 03 Apr 2008 08:14 PM | | Folks, I recently started teaching myself to use the CFD code that is available for work use, which means that while learning them I can use them for simple cases which pertain to our pursuits. In particular, I am looking at the pump outlet into water and into air since it covers single fluid CFD with cavitation and cfd with dissimilar fluids (which I am not certain the code will do).
specifically, I am looking for geometry in current pump outlets as I suspect that they limit the max efficient flowrate can dramatically effect the efficiency of the pumps as eventually, the flow will cavitate in the restriction, so if we can make a more efficient outlet, then we can get more efficient pumps for the fixed flowrate groups and more powerful pumps for the fixed orifice groups.
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SnipeHunter
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 | | 03 Apr 2008 08:21 PM | | What CFD code are you using? Color Filled Drawings is what I do for a living. | | | |
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Greg McFadden
 Rear Admiral (RDML)
 Posts:1414

 | | 03 Apr 2008 08:40 PM | | I've unfortunately only got access to Flowworks which while I know it ok, is limited enough and very very quirky... I have been meaning to try some of the open source codecs but lack of time has prevented that.
Unfortunately it has been a very very long time since I had a chance to use fidap or fluent or even ansys.... Just to keep the ole brain sharp I may have to break out the finite volume solver I was working on for class years ago and see about figuring out why it never quite worked right. | | | |
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SnipeHunter
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 | | 03 Apr 2008 09:07 PM | | Hehe Im not much of an ansys fan, I just hope they don't hose Fluent since they bought them a year ago or so(but they probably will, then again there are plenty of improvements they could make to fluent which would be nice, we shall see). Mostly im a Fluent guy, but im getting more into Star-CD/Star-CCM+, its got some nice polyhedral meshing abilities and hooks up with abaqus better for FSI, and thats where the modeling and sim world is headed. It also has a better interface so thats always a plus. Ive done a little in flowworks for a masters class but I wasn't really impressed with it.
CFD, its kinda like Black Magic, it works just only people that have been doing it for a long time understand it and can control it. Its also kinda like crack, massive highs and disturbing lows, that and it costs a lot.
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Kotori87
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 | | 03 Apr 2008 09:51 PM | | Any chance I could convince one of you to run some gas-flow analysis on some cannons? I'd love to test some of my designs without having to cut up bunches of expensive material. | | | There are 101 different types of people: those who understand binary, those who don't, and those who just can't count... | |
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specialist
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 | | 04 Apr 2008 09:46 AM | | Actualy if you look closly at the Navier-Stokes equations you will start to notice some things about pump outlets.
If you try it, it works, but to make it comply with the rules is a bit of a problem. Not impossible, just a problem. Plus it looks nasty.
I won't say what it is. Good luck finding it. And CFD won't help.
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Greg McFadden
 Rear Admiral (RDML)
 Posts:1414

 | | 04 Apr 2008 10:33 AM | | I've already noticed that we boil at the restriction.... | | | |
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