Skippy the Iron Dog
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 | | 09 Jun 2010 03:39 PM | | Hey Guys, Last weekend at our last battle I had a solenoid fail, it tested okay on the bench the night before although it was when I was low on pressure in my 3.5 oz tank. So at full pressure it wouldn't open or operate, but after turning off the tank firing the other cannon it would work again just before the pressure was down to nothing. Someone suggested to switch the pistons around and see if there was any change, I did and the only change was the other Solenoid didn't work under normal pressure. Okay, I guess the piston is bad, but why? And does anybody know where I can get replacements? Thanks | | | |
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RichelieuBB
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| | 09 Jun 2010 03:50 PM | | Is it a KIP or Clippard solenoid? If a Clippard, is it a MME or a Mouse? | | Mike Mangus
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Skippy the Iron Dog
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| | 09 Jun 2010 04:14 PM | | It's a 6V Kip.
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jadfer
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| | 09 Jun 2010 04:27 PM | | The indention on the piston eventually gets too deep to unseat reliably. Welcome to Kip ownership, be sure to keep a few pistons on hand. | | | |
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SnipeHunter
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| | 09 Jun 2010 04:50 PM | | That could also be a voltage problem or a problem in the coil if you tried a different piston from a working solenoid and there was still a problem.
If you need new pistons got to http://www.dultmeier.com/search.asp?advanced=yes&manu=KIP/NORG
part number:
KIPA3X293VV
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KIPA3X293 | | | |
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Skippy the Iron Dog
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| | 09 Jun 2010 05:03 PM | | By the indention do you mean the small hard rubber piece on the end of the piston, if so it had already been changed out. And I don't think it was a voltage problem as the problem followed the piston. Any other ideas? | | | |
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jadfer
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| | 09 Jun 2010 06:53 PM | | Once the rubber or viton pad on the end of the piston develops an indention it gets deeper over time. Then it doesnt work as well or not at all. I have all buna pistons go bad before I had even use them. I have since had one red viton piston go bad in less than a year while the others worked.
Did you replace the rubber pad on the piston or replace the piston? | | | |
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Skippy the Iron Dog
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| | 09 Jun 2010 08:01 PM | | I didn't replace the rubber pad, just turned it over and it work pretty good a month ago.
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jadfer
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| | 09 Jun 2010 08:21 PM | | Thats a first for me... Haha I just replace the piston and it works for a while. | | | |
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Skippy the Iron Dog
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| | 09 Jun 2010 10:35 PM | | Well that's what I'll do the, thanks snipehunter for the part numbers.
I'll check it out when I get home.
Thanks again | | | |
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jadfer
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| | 09 Jun 2010 11:20 PM | | Battlers Connection also has them if you want to include them on your next order. I was going to order elsewhere but it was about the same price. | | | |
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Skippy the Iron Dog
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| | 11 Jun 2010 05:12 PM | | Hey Johnny,
What's the defference in the KIPA3X293 and the KIPA3X293VV? | | | |
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jadfer
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| | 11 Jun 2010 07:36 PM | | The VV is the red viton that holds up better in heat. I have the red viton's now. The black epr seat on the plunger is too soft, according my experience, for our uses. I believe the repair kit has the o-rings and the plunger but you should confirm that with them. I still have the EPR o-rings and they worked fine at the Tangler.
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Skippy the Iron Dog
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| | 12 Jun 2010 12:27 AM | | Thanks Johnny,
I'll order the VV and try them out.
Todd | | | |
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djranier
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| | 14 Jun 2010 06:04 PM | | The Vitron is not affected by chemicals, the buna breaks down when any petro based product gets on it, oil, grease, so on. | | | Its better to give than to receive.
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Skippy the Iron Dog
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| | 15 Jun 2010 02:28 PM | | Okay, Thanks David. Does Rick carry these? | | | |
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djranier
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| | 15 Jun 2010 04:21 PM | | Yes he does | | | Its better to give than to receive.
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