Powder Monkey
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 | | 01 Apr 2008 05:21 PM | | Okay I need to get more resin and hardener so I broke down and purchased West system. I Hate it mixed a small batch put it on my ship wouldn’t set up cleaned it all off what a dam mess! mixed a big batch let it set for 1.5 hours and it finally caught on fire well not really but lets say I wanted to put on a box I had smoke showing, it was kind of cool. so I chalked it up to human error How I don’t know as I got the pump system and went 1 for 1 but hey I’ll take one for the team . Went about re applying a new batch and the dam stuff still isn’t dry going on 2 hours now should have stuck with bondo brand set in like 15 min dried in like 3 hours hard as rock. okay so here are the answers to all the questions I know you are wanting to ask it is 1 gal 105 resin 1 quart 205 hardener from west marina as I stated before I used the pump system and yes the correct ones are in the hardener my work shop is in a finished basement and was 71* now it is 69* since I’m not in there any more I'm hot blooded and it is very dry. one thing I did notice the bondo is stinky as hell but there is hardly any smell to the west and definitely not the kind of smell I would expect from a chemical but hey don’t know if that is normal. so tell me what is wrongggggggggg![V]
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Nothing But Wet, and it sure was fun 2009:
Best of scale War Ship
Ball Buster award So do or do not. There is no try | |
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SnipeHunter
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| | 01 Apr 2008 05:26 PM | | According to the west website it says 205 takes 6-8 hours to cure to a solid state. I normally let it sit overnight. Sounds like you are expecting it to cure to quickly. | | | |
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Powder Monkey
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| | 01 Apr 2008 05:50 PM | | It is still as wet as when I put it on[:(!] | | IRCWCC Fast Guns New England Task Force, http://netfrc.com USS Massachusetts BB 59 South Dakota Class Battleship Awards
2008:
Nothing But Wet, and it sure was fun 2009:
Best of scale War Ship
Ball Buster award So do or do not. There is no try | |
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Tugboat
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| | 01 Apr 2008 06:14 PM | | Are you using the correct pumps?
The kit comes with several tubes and stuff, the guy in the store warned me and showed me the right ones to use.
Also, I use small batches when using West. With the Fast hardener, I get like 15 minutes working time, not nearly 5min like they claim. | | | Battling: SMS Scharnhorst, SMS Baden
Building: HMS KGV (Drives, pumps water, guns are in but not plumbed)
MN Edgar Quinet (Hull done)
Drydock/Mothballed: Rus Evstafi, DKM Lutzow, HMS Invincible
Plus 20-odd other projects, according to my Boy Scouts who thoughtfully counted them for me. | |
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Powder Monkey
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| | 01 Apr 2008 06:16 PM | | LOL yes checked them rechecked them measured them and than checked them again the 1 5/8 for 205 pump per instructions yes I actually read them this time just don’t tell my wife | | IRCWCC Fast Guns New England Task Force, http://netfrc.com USS Massachusetts BB 59 South Dakota Class Battleship Awards
2008:
Nothing But Wet, and it sure was fun 2009:
Best of scale War Ship
Ball Buster award So do or do not. There is no try | |
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Powder Monkey
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| | 01 Apr 2008 06:19 PM | | I’m going on like 3 hours just as wet as I started does yours have that fiberglass stink to it or odorless like mine | | IRCWCC Fast Guns New England Task Force, http://netfrc.com USS Massachusetts BB 59 South Dakota Class Battleship Awards
2008:
Nothing But Wet, and it sure was fun 2009:
Best of scale War Ship
Ball Buster award So do or do not. There is no try | |
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SnipeHunter
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| | 01 Apr 2008 06:32 PM | | Naw it doesn't really stink, it has an odor but nothing like other epoxies. | | | |
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Powder Monkey
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| | 01 Apr 2008 06:39 PM | | Every frickin tool and light switch as well as my mouse and key board is sticky AHHHHHHHH | | IRCWCC Fast Guns New England Task Force, http://netfrc.com USS Massachusetts BB 59 South Dakota Class Battleship Awards
2008:
Nothing But Wet, and it sure was fun 2009:
Best of scale War Ship
Ball Buster award So do or do not. There is no try | |
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Powder Monkey
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| | 01 Apr 2008 06:51 PM | | Not only does this stuff not harden it wont come off [:0] this is like a bad dream the more I clean the worse it gets [:(] | | IRCWCC Fast Guns New England Task Force, http://netfrc.com USS Massachusetts BB 59 South Dakota Class Battleship Awards
2008:
Nothing But Wet, and it sure was fun 2009:
Best of scale War Ship
Ball Buster award So do or do not. There is no try | |
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EricMA
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| | 01 Apr 2008 07:18 PM | | Great Is this the stuff I went halfs with? Might want to call them tomorrow and see what went wrong. I have had bad lots of resin before but it is rare. I don't understand why everything in the room is sticky. I have never heard of fumes being sticky. | | | |
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Powder Monkey
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| | 01 Apr 2008 07:23 PM | | LOL yes it is partner [:D] I wanted to see what every one was talking about and well lets say I didn’t every thing I touch is sticky I wash my hands with acetone and they stay sticky [:o)] | | IRCWCC Fast Guns New England Task Force, http://netfrc.com USS Massachusetts BB 59 South Dakota Class Battleship Awards
2008:
Nothing But Wet, and it sure was fun 2009:
Best of scale War Ship
Ball Buster award So do or do not. There is no try | |
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Powder Monkey
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| | 01 Apr 2008 07:23 PM | | already sent them an email and put there # on my speed dial[:(!] | | IRCWCC Fast Guns New England Task Force, http://netfrc.com USS Massachusetts BB 59 South Dakota Class Battleship Awards
2008:
Nothing But Wet, and it sure was fun 2009:
Best of scale War Ship
Ball Buster award So do or do not. There is no try | |
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SnipeHunter
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| | 01 Apr 2008 07:28 PM | | hehe buy some gloves next time [;)] | | | |
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EricMA
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| | 01 Apr 2008 07:36 PM | | Ya I always use gloves. You can by rubber gloves in the paint department at Home depot. I have a bunch I'll bring them on Sat. | | | |
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Powder Monkey
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| | 01 Apr 2008 07:42 PM | | I had some on than got frustrated | | IRCWCC Fast Guns New England Task Force, http://netfrc.com USS Massachusetts BB 59 South Dakota Class Battleship Awards
2008:
Nothing But Wet, and it sure was fun 2009:
Best of scale War Ship
Ball Buster award So do or do not. There is no try | |
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Greg McFadden
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| | 01 Apr 2008 07:57 PM | | One suggestion for small batches... mix by weight if the information is available. That has always worked out better than by volume. When I started doing that with small batches, I never had a bad mix after that. A scale is available at wall mart for ~20$. | | | |
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EricMA
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| | 01 Apr 2008 08:04 PM | | I used to use an old postal scale I had worked real good until I spilt resin all over it. never worked right after that. | | | |
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EricMA
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| | 01 Apr 2008 08:16 PM | | I ordered some shell shockT fast to make the pieces for the super structure. I wonder if it could also be used on the hull. It is just as strong if not stronger as the stuff you bought powder. I use it when I cast. When cured, it is harder and more rigid at Shore 85D. stuff is great for making props, rudders, and turrets. | | | |
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Powder Monkey
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| | 01 Apr 2008 10:25 PM | | cool you can teach me how to cast | | IRCWCC Fast Guns New England Task Force, http://netfrc.com USS Massachusetts BB 59 South Dakota Class Battleship Awards
2008:
Nothing But Wet, and it sure was fun 2009:
Best of scale War Ship
Ball Buster award So do or do not. There is no try | |
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Tugboat
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| | 02 Apr 2008 03:47 AM | | I had my mom pick up an extra digital scale at weight watchers... does grams or that other archaic system :)
For West, I just use the pumps. For other stuff (urethanes) I use the scale, with a piece of wax paper over it. | | | Battling: SMS Scharnhorst, SMS Baden
Building: HMS KGV (Drives, pumps water, guns are in but not plumbed)
MN Edgar Quinet (Hull done)
Drydock/Mothballed: Rus Evstafi, DKM Lutzow, HMS Invincible
Plus 20-odd other projects, according to my Boy Scouts who thoughtfully counted them for me. | |
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