Powder Monkey
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 | | 01 Mar 2008 07:45 AM | | Building a Baltimore class hull. I'm having a hard time figuring the Skeg on the bottom the stern where it starts to lift up [:I] The model I have shows it as a thin skeg type but other models of similar ships are big round humps the plans don’t really show me which way it should be. So I’m looking for some input maybe a picture or two Thanks [IMG]http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z12/powdermonkey8/USS%20Boston/Picture081.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z12/powdermonkey8/USS%20Boston/Picture079.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z12/powdermonkey8/USS%20Boston/Picture064.jpg[/IMG] you can check out full build post below Visit this site | | IRCWCC Fast Guns New England Task Force, http://netfrc.com USS Massachusetts BB 59 South Dakota Class Battleship Awards
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JohnmCA72
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| | 01 Mar 2008 12:24 PM | | quote:
Originally posted by Powder Monkey
Building a Baltimore class hull. I'm having a hard time figuring the Skeg on the bottom the stern where it starts to lift up [:I]
The model I have shows it as a thin skeg type but other models of similar ships are big round humps the plans don’t really show me which way it should be. So I’m looking for some input maybe a picture or two
Thanks
I built one several years ago. I put in the skeg as drawn - basically, just keel, extended out beyond where the hull bottom starts to come up for prop. clearance. I documented my build in a multi-part article series at Visit this site Some photos of the class here (didn't see anything that would answer your specific question): Visit this site Visit this site Is that a Wisswesser plan? That's what I had when I built mine. Check it out VERY thoroughly if that's what you've got! By that I mean, check out various dimensions/points/lines between different views, as well as different parts of the same view. Absolutely horrible, as far as accuracy is concerned! Lots of "executive decisions" (i.e. corrections based on other information sources) to make because of things that can't work/fit exactly as drawn. In particular, he got the stern very, very wrong (as can be seen clearly from several of the photos in that Navy link, above). JM | | | |
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| | 01 Mar 2008 06:12 PM | | No the plans are from George (The Plans Master) Goff they seam to be quite excellent.
As for the skeg you are saying it basically there to protect the props from damage while going over submerged axis ships on there way to see Davey Jones thanks for the info
FE | | IRCWCC Fast Guns New England Task Force, http://netfrc.com USS Massachusetts BB 59 South Dakota Class Battleship Awards
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Nothing But Wet, and it sure was fun 2009:
Best of scale War Ship
Ball Buster award So do or do not. There is no try | |
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JohnmCA72
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| | 01 Mar 2008 06:35 PM | | quote:
Originally posted by Powder Monkey
No the plans are from George (The Plans Master) Goff they seam to be quite excellent.
As for the skeg you are saying it basically there to protect the props from damage while going over submerged axis ships on there way to see Davey Jones thanks for the info
FE
I'm not saying what it's there for, just that it's there. I checked Friedman's US CRUISERS AN ILLUSTRATED DESIGN HISTORY book, thinking he might have included a photo of something's back-end in drydock - no such luck. Plenty of line drawings of various US cruiser classes, & all have that skeg going back into the 1920s, at least. Any drydock photo you can find, of any class USN cruiser later than WWI should show you all you'd ever want. If the skeg's not structural (i.e. to help keep the hull stiff in that area where it curves upward) then it's probably there for waterflow; to help keep the ship going straight. Probably not going to help much as prop. protection; you'll scrape one side or the other as you go over, anyway. Best to keep a little distance, lest you get sucked down with 'em! JM | | | |
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| | 01 Mar 2008 06:47 PM | | LOL Thanks i'll keep that in mind.
I'm looking at some of the links you sent me where exactly is your build ? | | IRCWCC Fast Guns New England Task Force, http://netfrc.com USS Massachusetts BB 59 South Dakota Class Battleship Awards
2008:
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Best of scale War Ship
Ball Buster award So do or do not. There is no try | |
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| | 02 Mar 2008 04:10 AM | | Hi In my book us Cruisers it has one of the Balitmores in dry dock after a torpedo hit and you can just barely see it. In that pic it looks a like a thin wall. Hope that helps. That is how I built mine. | | | |
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| | 02 Mar 2008 06:48 AM | | Great I’d love to see that, do you know who the author is? Or any way you can send me a pic | | IRCWCC Fast Guns New England Task Force, http://netfrc.com USS Massachusetts BB 59 South Dakota Class Battleship Awards
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Nothing But Wet, and it sure was fun 2009:
Best of scale War Ship
Ball Buster award So do or do not. There is no try | |
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JohnmCA72
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| | 02 Mar 2008 10:37 AM | | quote:
Originally posted by Powder Monkey
LOL Thanks i'll keep that in mind.
I'm looking at some of the links you sent me where exactly is your build ?
Visit this site, look in the "How To Articles" section; there's a 6-part series. JM | | | |
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Powder Monkey
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| | 02 Mar 2008 01:46 PM | | Found it thanks nice work | | IRCWCC Fast Guns New England Task Force, http://netfrc.com USS Massachusetts BB 59 South Dakota Class Battleship Awards
2008:
Nothing But Wet, and it sure was fun 2009:
Best of scale War Ship
Ball Buster award So do or do not. There is no try | |
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| | 02 Mar 2008 02:11 PM | | The US Cruisers book is the one by Friedman, published by Naval Institute Press. | | | Battling: SMS Scharnhorst, SMS Baden
Building: HMS KGV (Drives, pumps water, guns are in but not plumbed)
MN Edgar Quinet (Hull done)
Drydock/Mothballed: Rus Evstafi, DKM Lutzow, HMS Invincible
Plus 20-odd other projects, according to my Boy Scouts who thoughtfully counted them for me. | |
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Powder Monkey
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| | 02 Mar 2008 05:07 PM | | thanks | | IRCWCC Fast Guns New England Task Force, http://netfrc.com USS Massachusetts BB 59 South Dakota Class Battleship Awards
2008:
Nothing But Wet, and it sure was fun 2009:
Best of scale War Ship
Ball Buster award So do or do not. There is no try | |
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Powder Monkey
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| | 17 Mar 2008 04:17 PM | | buddy haveing a hard time tracking that book down any chance youi can send me the pic thanks | | IRCWCC Fast Guns New England Task Force, http://netfrc.com USS Massachusetts BB 59 South Dakota Class Battleship Awards
2008:
Nothing But Wet, and it sure was fun 2009:
Best of scale War Ship
Ball Buster award So do or do not. There is no try | |
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Powder Monkey
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| | 25 Mar 2008 08:52 AM | | Anyone! Having a hard time tracking that book down any chance you can post me the picture mentioned above thanks | | IRCWCC Fast Guns New England Task Force, http://netfrc.com USS Massachusetts BB 59 South Dakota Class Battleship Awards
2008:
Nothing But Wet, and it sure was fun 2009:
Best of scale War Ship
Ball Buster award So do or do not. There is no try | |
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| | 25 Mar 2008 09:45 AM | | http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_gw/104-6003428-0805560?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=US+Cruisers&x=0&y=0
It's pricey, but it's there if you're interested.
I may pick up a copy in the future since US WW2 cruisers are my favorite group of ships, but not getting it right now. | | | HMS Invincible
USS Salem (CA-139)
USS Belleau Wood (CVL-24)
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Powder Monkey
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| | 25 Mar 2008 10:01 AM | | Yup me to however that is a set of guns at this point in the game just would like to see that one picture for now so i can add my skeg | | IRCWCC Fast Guns New England Task Force, http://netfrc.com USS Massachusetts BB 59 South Dakota Class Battleship Awards
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Nothing But Wet, and it sure was fun 2009:
Best of scale War Ship
Ball Buster award So do or do not. There is no try | |
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| | 25 Mar 2008 10:11 AM | | Heh. The only way I afforded that one was to have it given to me for Christmas :) | | | Battling: SMS Scharnhorst, SMS Baden
Building: HMS KGV (Drives, pumps water, guns are in but not plumbed)
MN Edgar Quinet (Hull done)
Drydock/Mothballed: Rus Evstafi, DKM Lutzow, HMS Invincible
Plus 20-odd other projects, according to my Boy Scouts who thoughtfully counted them for me. | |
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Powder Monkey
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| | 25 Mar 2008 10:13 AM | | That Dam lawyer chick I bet hey I know will fight with her if she sends me one as a late Easter present [;)] | | IRCWCC Fast Guns New England Task Force, http://netfrc.com USS Massachusetts BB 59 South Dakota Class Battleship Awards
2008:
Nothing But Wet, and it sure was fun 2009:
Best of scale War Ship
Ball Buster award So do or do not. There is no try | |
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| | 25 Mar 2008 10:30 AM | | Find yer own sugar momma ;)
| | | Battling: SMS Scharnhorst, SMS Baden
Building: HMS KGV (Drives, pumps water, guns are in but not plumbed)
MN Edgar Quinet (Hull done)
Drydock/Mothballed: Rus Evstafi, DKM Lutzow, HMS Invincible
Plus 20-odd other projects, according to my Boy Scouts who thoughtfully counted them for me. | |
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Powder Monkey
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| | 25 Mar 2008 11:01 AM | | [:(] didn't your mom teach you to share [^] | | IRCWCC Fast Guns New England Task Force, http://netfrc.com USS Massachusetts BB 59 South Dakota Class Battleship Awards
2008:
Nothing But Wet, and it sure was fun 2009:
Best of scale War Ship
Ball Buster award So do or do not. There is no try | |
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crzyhawk
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| | 25 Mar 2008 11:23 AM | | I knew I shouldn't have gone looking on Amazon :/ I now have German Battlecruisers 1914-1918, British Battlecruisers 1914-1918 and British Battlecrusiers 1939-1945 coming. Yes, I'm a battlecruiser fan, what can I say? | | | HMS Invincible
USS Salem (CA-139)
USS Belleau Wood (CVL-24)
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